Hi Mike,
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP
and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
Regards,
Dan
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-
On 2/13/2026 8:23 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Mike Dippel:
Hi Mike,
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP
and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
Regards,
Dan
I am on a leased server which seems to switch it's time zone to UTC on occasion. That may be the reason, but sorry it happened :(
I switch it back to EDT when I notice it, but it's probably too late
when I see it.
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-
On 2/13/2026 8:23 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Mike Dippel:
Hi Mike,
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
Regards,
Dan
I am on a leased server which seems to switch it's time zone to UTC on occasion. That may be the reason, but sorry it happened :(
I switch it back to EDT when I notice it, but it's probably too late when I see it.
Maybe you can have the server email you on the day before nodelists go
out, and check the timestamp on the email to see what timezone the
server is operating in. Like a "Scheduled Task" in Windows, or a script ran by a cron job in Linux.
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP
and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
Regards,
Dan
BY: Dan Clough (954:200/1)
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
Regards,
Dan
HEY!!!! I only got ONE copy. :-)
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
HEY!!!! I only got ONE copy. :-)
Dan is special!
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Mike Dippel to Mickey on Wed Feb 18 2026 08:07 pm
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
HEY!!!! I only got ONE copy. :-)
Dan is special!
This same thing happened again last night, at nearly the identical times. I'm
sure I can't be the only one getting things twice...
Dan
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-
On 2/20/2026 8:50 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Mike Dippel:
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Mike Dippel to Mickey on Wed Feb 18 2026 08:07 pm
Just wanted to let you know that I've received the latest HOBBYNET.ZIP and HOBBYNET.044 twice for unknown reasons.
Once last night (Feb 12th) at 11:15 PM, CST
Again this morning (Feb 13th) at 4:01 AM, CST
HEY!!!! I only got ONE copy. :-)
Dan is special!
This same thing happened again last night, at nearly the identical
times. I'm sure I can't be the only one getting things twice...
Nothing shows as a problem on my end. Anyone else?
This same thing happened again last night, at nearly the identical times. I'm sure I can't be the only one getting things twice...
Nothing shows as a problem on my end. Anyone else?
Well, I am receiving them twice, about 5 hours apart, from your system. That right there is the problem. Should be easy enough to confirm in
your logs that the files were sent out twice. The question is *WHY* are they being sent out twice?
As Mike asked, is anyone else seeing this? Please speak up if you are.
Mike, as I said in another message last night (as a reply to somebody else), is it possible that I am in your nodelist/database twice? I used
to have a different node number...
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-
On 2/22/2026 8:44 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Mike Dippel:
This same thing happened again last night, at nearly the identical times. I'm sure I can't be the only one getting things twice...
Nothing shows as a problem on my end. Anyone else?
Well, I am receiving them twice, about 5 hours apart, from your system. That right there is the problem. Should be easy enough to confirm in
your logs that the files were sent out twice. The question is *WHY* are they being sent out twice?
As Mike asked, is anyone else seeing this? Please speak up if you are.
Mike, as I said in another message last night (as a reply to somebody else), is it possible that I am in your nodelist/database twice? I used
to have a different node number...
Sorry. I can't see it on my log files. Can you tell me the date and times and I can check again.
Sorry. I can't see it on my log files. Can you tell me the date
and
times and I can check again.
February 12th at 12:15 AM (EST)
February 13th at 5:01 AM (EST)
Mickey wrote to Dan Clough <=-
BY: Dan Clough (954:200/1)
Sorry. I can't see it on my log files. Can you tell me the date
and
times and I can check again.
February 12th at 12:15 AM (EST)
February 13th at 5:01 AM (EST)
WHAT?
Well ....... i've never!! pfffft :-)
Well, I am receiving them twice, about 5 hours apart, from your system. That right there is the problem. Should be easy enough to confirm in your logs that the files were sent out twice. The question is *WHY* are they being sent out twice?
As Mike asked, is anyone else seeing this? Please speak up if you are.
Mike, as I said in another message last night (as a reply to somebody else), is it possible that I am in your nodelist/database twice? I used to have a different node number...
Sorry. I can't see it on my log files. Can you tell me the date and times and I can check again.
February 12th at 12:15 AM (EST)
February 13th at 5:01 AM (EST)
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-are
Well, I am receiving them twice, about 5 hours apart, from your system. That right there is the problem. Should be easy enough to confirm in your logs that the files were sent out twice. The question is *WHY*
usedthey being sent out twice?
As Mike asked, is anyone else seeing this? Please speak up if you are.
Mike, as I said in another message last night (as a reply to somebody else), is it possible that I am in your nodelist/database twice? I
to have a different node number...
Sorry. I can't see it on my log files. Can you tell me the date and times and I can check again.
February 12th at 12:15 AM (EST)
February 13th at 5:01 AM (EST)
I only keep log files for 7 days so I can't check it. If it happens again, I can check it if you provide me the info.
How can I be the only one noticing this?
The Wanderer wrote to Dan Clough <=-
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I just got around to looking at this here, and I can confirm I'm seeing the same thing.
Looking at the mailer sessions, I believe things are in order - files
are coming from 954:11/1, and the times & files look like this:
Feb 12 21:57:58 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.044 (10.9KB) Feb 12 21:57:58 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 13 02:06:31 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.044 (10.9KB) Feb 13 02:06:31 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB)
Feb 19 21:15:44 [synchronet] srvc 0057 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 19 21:15:44 [synchronet] srvc 0057 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.051 (10.9KB) Feb 20 01:15:46 [synchronet] srvc 0056 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 20 01:15:47 [synchronet] srvc 0056 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.051 (10.9KB)
The times are in pacific.
The Wanderer wrote to Dan Clough <=-
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I just got around to looking at this here, and I can confirm I'm seeing the same thing.
Looking at the mailer sessions, I believe things are in order - files are coming from 954:11/1, and the times & files look like this:
Feb 12 21:57:58 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.044 (10.9KB) Feb 12 21:57:58 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 13 02:06:31 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.044 (10.9KB) Feb 13 02:06:31 [synchronet] srvc 0053 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB)
Feb 19 21:15:44 [synchronet] srvc 0057 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 19 21:15:44 [synchronet] srvc 0057 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.051 (10.9KB) Feb 20 01:15:46 [synchronet] srvc 0056 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.ZIP (8.2KB) Feb 20 01:15:47 [synchronet] srvc 0056 BINKP Received file: /home/sbbs/temp/HOBBYNET.051 (10.9KB)
The times are in pacific.
Thank you! I was starting to think I was the only Sysop who looks at logs... ;-)
Mike Dippel - are you seeing this?
Well, the above reference was for Feb 12/13. It happened again the following week (Feb 19/20) which is what was stated right here in this message thread. So.... the 19/20 events should still be visible in the logs, right?
How can I be the only one noticing this?
deon wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Dan Clough to Mike Dippel on Wed Feb 25 2026 10:53 am
Well, the above reference was for Feb 12/13. It happened again the following week (Feb 19/20) which is what was stated right here in this message thread. So.... the 19/20 events should still be visible in the logs, right?
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I think I'm only getting them once.
I can only see one file each week, and since I have nothing unprocessed
in my inbound, I'm assuming I'm only getting it once:
3412 HEALTH.051 4,383 2026-02-20 05:05:40
3382 HEALTH.044 4,383 2026-02-13 05:05:32
3351 HEALTH.037 4,382 2026-02-06 05:06:16
3325 HEALTH.030 4,382 2026-01-30 05:07:18
Well, that's "HealthNet" so may not be happening there. We've been
talking about "HobbyNet" here in the HobbyNet echo... ;-)
Might be a clue for Mike Dippel though, as to what is different between
the two networks.
deon wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Dan Clough to deon on Thu Feb 26 2026 08:08 am
Well, that's "HealthNet" so may not be happening there. We've been
talking about "HobbyNet" here in the HobbyNet echo... ;-)
Might be a clue for Mike Dippel though, as to what is different between
the two networks.
Oh, my bad... sorry...
3418 HOBBYNET.051 11,130 2026-02-20 08:05:24
3391 HOBBYNET.044 11,144 2026-02-13 08:06:16
3365 HOBBYNET.037 11,143 2026-02-08 04:44:06
3329 HOBBYNET.030 10,924 2026-02-01 08:56:14
3278 HOBBYNET.023 10,924 2026-01-23 05:11:52
3248 HOBBYNET.016 10,835 2026-01-16 05:03:14
3214 HOBBYNET.009 10,834 2026-01-09 05:02:34
Nope, not getting two of them either...
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@MSGID: 988.hnet_sysop_admin@954:200/1 2e058da8
@REPLY: 359.hby_sysop_admin@954:700/22 2e057d42
@PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/beb7e64da Dec 27 2025 GCC 14.2.0
@TID: SBBSecho 3.34-Linux master/beb7e64da Dec 27 2025 GCC 14.2.0
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deon wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Dan Clough to Mike Dippel on Wed Feb 25 2026 10:53 am
Well, the above reference was for Feb 12/13. It happened again the following week (Feb 19/20) which is what was stated right here in this message thread. So.... the 19/20 events should still be visible in the logs, right?
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I think I'm only getting them once.
I can only see one file each week, and since I have nothing unprocessed in my inbound, I'm assuming I'm only getting it once:
3412 HEALTH.051 4,383 2026-02-20 05:05:40
3382 HEALTH.044 4,383 2026-02-13 05:05:32
3351 HEALTH.037 4,382 2026-02-06 05:06:16
3325 HEALTH.030 4,382 2026-01-30 05:07:18
Well, that's "HealthNet" so may not be happening there. We've been
talking about "HobbyNet" here in the HobbyNet echo... ;-)
Might be a clue for Mike Dippel though, as to what is different between
the two networks.
My directory listing looks like that too... The second one that comes
in overwrites the first one, so you'd never know it just by looking at a directory listing. The question is - did you receive two of them as
shown in logs / tic processor output.
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Dan Clough to deon on Thu Feb 26 2026 07:27 pm
Howdy,
My directory listing looks like that too... The second one that comes
in overwrites the first one, so you'd never know it just by looking at a directory listing. The question is - did you receive two of them as shown in logs / tic processor output.
Actually you are right - so I looked in the DB that clrghouz logs incoming files to. As it doesnt "delete" (replace) anything, I know I have a record of
everything I've received.
3418 | HOBBYNET.051 | 2026-02-20 08:05:24
3410 | HOBBYNET.051 | 2026-02-20 05:02:44
3391 | HOBBYNET.044 | 2026-02-13 08:06:16
3365 | HOBBYNET.037 | 2026-02-08 04:44:06
3348 | HOBBYNET.037 | 2026-02-06 05:02:28
3329 | HOBBYNET.030 | 2026-02-01 08:56:14
3323 | HOBBYNET.030 | 2026-01-30 05:04:38
3278 | HOBBYNET.023 | 2026-01-23 05:11:52
3248 | HOBBYNET.016 | 2026-01-16 05:03:14
3214 | HOBBYNET.009 | 2026-01-09 05:02:34
3181 | HOBBYNET.002 | 2026-01-02 06:57:42
Seems I got 2x 051's, 0x37's and 0x30s. Its hit and miss...
Prior to that I got 1 a week, but then I got 2x 318's.
deon wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Re: Re: Duplicate nodelist/infopack received
By: Dan Clough to deon on Thu Feb 26 2026 07:27 pm
Howdy,
My directory listing looks like that too... The second one that comes
in overwrites the first one, so you'd never know it just by looking at a directory listing. The question is - did you receive two of them as
shown in logs / tic processor output.
Actually you are right - so I looked in the DB that clrghouz logs
incoming files to. As it doesnt "delete" (replace) anything, I know I
have a record of everything I've received.
3418 | HOBBYNET.051 | 2026-02-20 08:05:24
3410 | HOBBYNET.051 | 2026-02-20 05:02:44
3391 | HOBBYNET.044 | 2026-02-13 08:06:16
3365 | HOBBYNET.037 | 2026-02-08 04:44:06
3348 | HOBBYNET.037 | 2026-02-06 05:02:28
3329 | HOBBYNET.030 | 2026-02-01 08:56:14
3323 | HOBBYNET.030 | 2026-01-30 05:04:38
3278 | HOBBYNET.023 | 2026-01-23 05:11:52
3248 | HOBBYNET.016 | 2026-01-16 05:03:14
3214 | HOBBYNET.009 | 2026-01-09 05:02:34
3181 | HOBBYNET.002 | 2026-01-02 06:57:42
Seems I got 2x 051's, 0x37's and 0x30s. Its hit and miss...
Prior to that I got 1 aweek, but then I got 2x 318's.
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-unprocessed
On 2/26/2026 8:14 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Deon:
Well, the above reference was for Feb 12/13. It happened again the following week (Feb 19/20) which is what was stated right here in this message thread. So.... the 19/20 events should still be visible in the logs, right?
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I think I'm only getting them once.
I can only see one file each week, and since I have nothing
in my inbound, I'm assuming I'm only getting it once:
3412 HEALTH.051 4,383 2026-02-20 05:05:40
3382 HEALTH.044 4,383 2026-02-13 05:05:32
3351 HEALTH.037 4,382 2026-02-06 05:06:16
3325 HEALTH.030 4,382 2026-01-30 05:07:18
Well, that's "HealthNet" so may not be happening there. We've been
talking about "HobbyNet" here in the HobbyNet echo... ;-)
Might be a clue for Mike Dippel though, as to what is different between
the two networks.
I also switched you from 'Crash' to 'Normal'. Not sure if that will
cure the problem, but it's worth a try.
Can you check this mornings log? I changed the way I hatch the files and hopefully it
will solve the problem.
Mike Dippel wrote to Dan Clough <=-
On 2/26/2026 8:14 AM, Dan Clough wrote to Deon:
Well, the above reference was for Feb 12/13. It happened again the following week (Feb 19/20) which is what was stated right here in this
message thread. So.... the 19/20 events should still be visible in the
logs, right?
How can I be the only one noticing this?
I think I'm only getting them once.
unprocessedI can only see one file each week, and since I have nothing
in my inbound, I'm assuming I'm only getting it once:
3412 HEALTH.051 4,383 2026-02-20 05:05:40
3382 HEALTH.044 4,383 2026-02-13 05:05:32
3351 HEALTH.037 4,382 2026-02-06 05:06:16
3325 HEALTH.030 4,382 2026-01-30 05:07:18
Well, that's "HealthNet" so may not be happening there. We've been talking about "HobbyNet" here in the HobbyNet echo... ;-)
Might be a clue for Mike Dippel though, as to what is different between the two networks.
I also switched you from 'Crash' to 'Normal'. Not sure if that will cure the problem, but it's worth a try.
Well, I only got things once today, so maybe that was it.
I'm not completely sure I understand your setup/process there, but I
think I remember you saying the nodelists/infopacks were created on one system, and then pulled from there by another system and sent out to the downlinks. Possibly that first system was crashing them out when
created, and then later the other system retrieved them and sent them
out again. Seems like kind of a strange way to operate, that way.
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