hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

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04 May 26 23:00, you wrote to Nightfox:

hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

Do you mean the phones? The new notebook doesn't seem too pricey.

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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: baa to Nightfox on Mon May 04 2026 11:00 pm

hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

Why are you asking me?

Nightfox
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hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

Why are you asking me?

Why nota speaka english good? Thats what I want to know.

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hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

We have an issue of AI companies hogging all the computer components.
That is one reason.

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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: Exodus to Nightfox on Tue May 05 2026 18:29:17

hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

Why nota speaka english good? Thats what I want to know.

Maybe he's in his Yoda phase.
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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: Matthew Munson to Baa on Mon May 04 2026 21:45:34

hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

We have an issue of AI companies hogging all the computer components.
That is one reason.

Apple has always considered themselves a "premium" company, thanks to SJ. Even back in the '70s, the Apple ][ was the most expensive of the home micros. Granted, it was also the most flexible, but that pricing structure continued...until this year when they brought out the MacBook Neo for $595. It's pretty limited, but the fact that they did it is curious.
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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: Matthew Munson to Baa on Mon May 04 2026 09:45 pm

hello, why apple charge so much for their product, not cool

We have an issue of AI companies hogging all the computer components. That is one reason.

Apple has often charged a lot for their products. It's not just a symptom of AI, which is relatively recent. But some PC components are indeed expensive right now.

I upgraded the RAM in both my PCs a couple years ago, and it happened to be just before RAM prices skyrocketed.. I'm glad I did that when I did.

Nightfox
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Apple has always considered themselves a "premium" company, thanks to SJ.

I consider them junk, and always will be.

... You expect mere PROOF to change my opinion?

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Apple has always considered themselves a "premium" company, thanks to

I consider them junk, and always will be.

I don't get this idea - I can understand if you don't like the eco-system, walled garden, ethics or otherwise... but the hardware has always been the stuff to beat.

The M4 Mac Mini is hands down the best value in 2024, let alone 2025-2026. Literally.

The Neo is gonna KILL all sub $1000 laptops.

I'm a Linux guy thru and thru - but the machine that I interact with daily to control all those other systems will always be macOS.



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Nightfox wrote to Matthew Munson <=-

I upgraded the RAM in both my PCs a couple years ago, and it happened
to be just before RAM prices skyrocketed.. I'm glad I did that when I did.

Disks, too. I waffled on replacing the 2TB spinning drives in my NAS
with bigger SSDs, wish I'd done it last year...



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I'm a Linux guy thru and thru - but the machine that I interact with daily to control all those other systems will always be macOS.

I think a lot of us "PC people" considered them junk early on because they were not compatible with anything else, sort of like the Commodores, TIs, etc., that preceded them. With the internet age, this compatibility issue became less apparent.

Another reason being that, IIRC, they were harder to tinker with.



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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu May 07 2026 07:52 am

I upgraded the RAM in both my PCs a couple years ago, and it happened to
be just before RAM prices skyrocketed.. I'm glad I did that when I did.

Disks, too. I waffled on replacing the 2TB spinning drives in my NAS with bigger SSDs, wish I'd done it last year...

That sucks.. I've considered buying a bigger spinning drive for my secondary PC.

Nightfox
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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Disks, too. I waffled on replacing the 2TB spinning drives in my NAS with bigger SSDs, wish I'd done it last year...

That sucks.. I've considered buying a bigger spinning drive for my secondary PC.

I did some cleanup work and freed up about a terabyte of space. I'll be
OK for a while. I think I have 2.6 TB used out of a 7.2 TB array now.

I had backups of my media in 2 places on my NAS - that was easy to free
space.

I had all of my media stored locally on my desktop and mirrored to my
NAS on the RAID filesystem using Resilio Sync. The NAS also serves as a
media server. I realized that about half of my media I don't want to
stream on the TV - I took those files out of Resilio Sync <-> RAID and
copied them to a different folder, which I sync to an external USB on
the NAS - they don't need to live on the RAID since I have them in two
places.

My NAS backs up to a 10GB USB external. I have an old NAS chassis and
some older drives, I'm tempted to make it into a backup target.

If I ever get around to moving to AT&T fiber, I'll sync it all to the
cloud with the backup app on the NAS. For now, I bring an external to
work and sync it with OneDrive.






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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 08 2026 10:16 am

That sucks.. I've considered buying a bigger spinning drive for my
secondary PC.

I did some cleanup work and freed up about a terabyte of space. I'll be OK for a while. I think I have 2.6 TB used out of a 7.2 TB array now.

I did some cleanup too, so I'm okay for now. But I'll probably eventually need more space. I have a PC that I use as a media server (using Plex Media Server), and a few years ago I bought an 18TB drive for it (although those are a bit expensive, I figured it would be good to have the space for movies & TV shows). I've been slowly filling that up.. I started to actually get fairly low on free space on that drive recently, but I realized there was a lot of temporary stuff I had on it which I removed to free up space.

Also I've considered whether it might be a good idea to buy a new drive as NAS rather than being inside one of my PCs.. But that PC is sonething I always have running anyway (since I also run my BBS on it).

If I ever get around to moving to AT&T fiber, I'll sync it all to the cloud with the backup app on the NAS. For now, I bring an external to work and sync it with OneDrive.

I've considered whether I want to do that, though I still feel a bit old-school on that - I feel like I'd rather buy my own external hard drive as a backup rather than paying a recurring subscription fee for an online backup service. But then again, having an offsite cloud backup can be a good thing.

Nightfox
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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Also I've considered whether it might be a good idea to buy a new drive
as NAS rather than being inside one of my PCs.. But that PC is
sonething I always have running anyway (since I also run my BBS on it).

Definitely - they're expensive, but it's worth mirroring or running
RAID 5 on it for resiliency, and most NASes also act as DLNA servers,
allowing you to stream media to TVs in your house.



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Re: Re: macOS 26
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat May 09 2026 11:29 am

Definitely - they're expensive, but it's worth mirroring or running RAID 5 on it for resiliency, and most NASes also act as DLNA servers, allowing you to stream media to TVs in your house.

I already run Plex Media Server on my secondary PC, and I bought their lifetime subscription for it several years ago (pay once & get the premium features forever). One of the premium features I use with it is its DVR features to record over-the-air TV broadcasts (for shows like Jeopardy & a couple others). Would a DLNA server in a NAS have DVR functionality?

Nightfox
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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I already run Plex Media Server on my secondary PC, and I bought their lifetime subscription for it several years ago (pay once & get the
premium features forever). One of the premium features I use with it
is its DVR features to record over-the-air TV broadcasts (for shows
like Jeopardy & a couple others). Would a DLNA server in a NAS have DVR functionality?

No, it just lets you stream existing media. I'd love Plex, but I'm on
the coast - we only get a few stations over HDTV, and they're not of
interest.

It would be interesting to look at a combination of something like
Jellyfin with the arr suite - torrent search and streaming tools that I
could run on my homelab.



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