Hi sodalis,


I don't remember if this question went around many years ago, but here I am again: some of you are using a client to access the BBBS message base, and edit, answer, enter messages, and so on?

Currently, I am doing it through the BBBS's web interface (and there is no problem) but I would like to explore new possibilities.

I've just remembered that once was the BlueMail message editor... but, do you know if there are some other alternatives?


A reveure!!
Enric

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I don't remember if this question went around many years ago, but here I am again: some of you are using a client to access the BBBS message base, and edit, answer, enter messages, and so on?

One way is with a QWK or BlueWave offline reader.

Currently, I am doing it through the BBBS's web interface (and there is no problem) but I would like to explore new possibilities.

I've just remembered that once was the BlueMail message editor... but, do you know if there are some other alternatives?

I use MultiMail and it has served me well for years.

BBBS supports QWK and BlueWave (and others), I use BlueWave for mat when it is available and QWK when it isn't.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
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Enric Lleal Serra wrote to All <=-

I don't remember if this question went around many years ago, but here I am again: some of you are using a client to access the BBBS message
base, and edit, answer, enter messages, and so on?

Currently, I am doing it through the BBBS's web interface (and there is
no problem) but I would like to explore new possibilities.

I've just remembered that once was the BlueMail message editor... but,
do you know if there are some other alternatives?

There are a few but I like bluemail and set the grab format to bluewave. It used to be able to directly read the BBBS message areas but that no longers seems to work, well on my Pi's

I think someone once mentioned adding BBBS to GoldEd but that never seems to have gone anywhere.

I use bluemail on my Mac and have lzrssz or whatever it is set to auto download from my bbbs (or any bbbs) on iterm

Sean

... Pets were put on Earth to show that unconditional love is real

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Hi Alan,

edit, answer, enter messages, and so on?

One way is with a QWK or BlueWave offline reader.

:-m Ah, yes. With my SysOp account, will be ok... (I'm a little afraid to dust off my old BlueWave knowledge...)

I use MultiMail and it has served me well for years.

Multimail as a QWK/BW processor? Or accessing directly to the BBBS message base (like GoldED to JAM bases)?

BBBS supports QWK and BlueWave (and others), I use BlueWave for mat when it is
available and QWK when it isn't.

I've noted your suggestion. Thank you! ;-)

A reveure!!
Enric

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Hi Sean,

It
used to be able to directly read the BBBS message areas but that no longers seems to work, well on my Pi's

I will check it (I will let you know if I succeed).

I think someone once mentioned adding BBBS to GoldEd but that never seems to have gone anywhere.

I think this is a major feature... I don't know if the maintainers are alive... >I use bluemail on my Mac and have lzrssz or whatever it is set to auto downloa

from my bbbs (or any bbbs) on iterm

This will be my last option. As you and Alan said to me, my last option will be the QWK/BW door... Thank you anyway.

A reveure!!
Enric

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: Pursuit Special - The last of the V8 Interceptors (2:343/107.1)

Hello Enric!

04 Jul 26 16:24, you wrote to Sean Rima:

Hi Sean,

It
used to be able to directly read the BBBS message areas but that no
longers seems to work, well on my Pi's

I will check it (I will let you know if I succeed).

I think someone once mentioned adding BBBS to GoldEd but that never
seems to have gone anywhere.

I think this is a major feature... I don't know if the maintainers are alive...

I use bluemail on my Mac and have lzrssz or whatever it is set to
auto downloa from my bbbs (or any bbbs) on iterm

This will be my last option. As you and Alan said to me, my last
option will be the QWK/BW door... Thank you anyway.

Remind me, what is the message base ?

If Jam squish etc it is supported and yes there are others so golded should be ok - build it and try it.


Vincent


--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.7.2/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240604
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Enric Lleal Serra wrote to Sean Rima <=-

I think this is a major feature... I don't know if the maintainers are alive...

I use bluemail on my Mac and have lzrssz or whatever it is set to auto
downloa
from my bbbs (or any bbbs) on iterm

This will be my last option. As you and Alan said to me, my last option will be the QWK/BW door... Thank you anyway.

I do like GoldED but as it doesnt work directly with BBBS I no longer use it. I will see if I can work out why bluemail is not working with bbbs

Sean

... Pets were put on Earth to show that unconditional love is real

--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: TCOB1 https://binkd.rima.ie (2:263/1)

I use MultiMail and it has served me well for years.

Multimail as a QWK/BW processor? Or accessing directly to the BBBS message base (like GoldED to JAM bases)?

No, MultiMail is an offline mail reader, it needs either QWK or BW packets from a BBS.

You need to either telnet to a BBS that supports offline mail or some times you can use FTP. When you use ftp the filename is always grab, also your reply packets need to be called grab when uploaded.

I use a command like this to download via ftp..

get grab trmb.qwk (or trmb.sa1)

And a command like this to upload reply packets..

put trmb.rep (or trmb.new) grab

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
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Hey Alan!

On Sat, 04 Jul 2026 14:48:32 -0700, you wrote:

I use a command like this to download via ftp..
get grab trmb.qwk (or trmb.sa1)

And a command like this to upload reply packets..
put trmb.rep (or trmb.new) grab

Just for my information (and maybe others), and the fact that I've never seen it before: What does "grab" do? And in what version of ftp are you using that includes that command/option?

$ ftp --version
ftp (GNU inetutils) 2.8
$ ftp

help

Commands may be abbreviated. Commands are:

! dir macdef proxy site
$ disconnect mdelete sendport size
account epsv4 mdir put status
append form mget pwd struct
ascii get mkdir quit system
bell glob mls quote sunique
binary hash mode recv tenex
bye help modtime reget trace
case idle mput rstatus type
cd image newer rhelp user
cdup ipany nmap rename umask
chmod ipv4 nlist reset verbose
close ipv6 ntrans restart ?
cr lcd open rmdir
delete lpwd passive runique
debug ls prompt send

Regards,
Nick

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I use a command like this to download via ftp..
get grab trmb.qwk (or trmb.sa1)

And a command like this to upload reply packets..
put trmb.rep (or trmb.new) grab

Just for my information (and maybe others), and the fact that I've never seen it before: What does "grab" do? And in what version of ftp are you using that includes that command/option?

grab is the filename when using ftp. It's not an ftp command and you won't ever see it outside of BBBS.

In BBBS downloading offline mail is called grabbing, you need to set your grab format to QWK or BW. Even your uploaded reply packet needs to be called "grab" (when using ftp) or BBBS won't process it.

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* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

Hi Vincent,

Remind me, what is the message base ?
If Jam squish etc it is supported and yes there are others so golded should be
ok - build it and try it.

My initial intend was to access to BBBS message base... but it is clear to me that's not will be possible until:

- BlueMail works again against BBBS message base.
- GoldED+ extends its capabilities in this direction.

I will check the first option. :-)

A reveure!!
Enric


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* Origin: Pursuit Special - The last of the V8 Interceptors (2:343/107.1)

Hi Sean,

I do like GoldED but as it doesnt work directly with BBBS I no longer use it.
will see if I can work out why bluemail is not working with bbbs

Please let me know if it runs for you in Arm. I will check it too in Amd_64.

A reveure!!
Enric

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: Pursuit Special - The last of the V8 Interceptors (2:343/107.1)

Hi Alan,

I use a command like this to download via ftp..
And a command like this to upload reply packets..

:-O I had to read the SysOp manual to find this point... All these years without realizing this possibility... ''':-)

A reveure!!
Enric

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: Pursuit Special - The last of the V8 Interceptors (2:343/107.1)

Enric Lleal Serra wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Hi Sean,

I do like GoldED but as it doesnt work directly with BBBS I no longer
use it.
will see if I can work out why bluemail is not working with bbbs

Please let me know if it runs for you in Arm. I will check it too in Amd_64.

I checked the app and the patch is working. Now bluemail only acts as a reader, it creates a reply script that posts your messages to bbbs. Thsat breaks reply strings etc. But I guess it is a start

I have bluemail on my github and will upload the test in a few days

Sean

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--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
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Enric Lleal Serra wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Hi Sean,

I do like GoldED but as it doesnt work directly with BBBS I no longer

use it.

will see if I can work out why bluemail is not working with bbbs

Please let me know if it runs for you in Arm. I will check it too in Amd_64.

This was read directly in bluemail and then the reply uses the bmuncoll app that comes with bluemail. I think it maybe impossible to write directly to bbbs message base. But it works

Sean


... blueMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline mail reader!
-+- blueMail/Linux 1.4

--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: TCOB1 https://binkd.rima.ie (2:263/1)

Hey Alan!

On Sun, 05 Jul 2026 12:55:56 -0800, you wrote:

In BBBS downloading offline mail is called grabbing, you need to set
your grab format to QWK or BW. Even your uploaded reply packet needs to
be called "grab" (when using ftp) or BBBS won't process it.

Ah, ok. That would explain why I've never seen it! ;)

Regards,
Nick

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--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hi Sean,

I checked the app and the patch is working. Now bluemail only acts as a reader >it creates a reply script that posts your messages to bbbs. Thsat breaks reply
strings etc. But I guess it is a start

;-m But, can you read the echo areas directly? It's a good start. :-)

I have bluemail on my github and will upload the test in a few days

Can you share your url?


A reveure!!
Enric


--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: Pursuit Special - The last of the V8 Interceptors (2:343/107.1)

Hi Sean,

message base. But it works

... blueMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline mail reader!
-+- blueMail/Linux 1.4

^^^^^^^^ :-)

As I said, it's a good start. Thanks for your efforts.


A reveure!!
Enric

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